Thanks, nvr! I think this one sums it all up:
- We are deeply concerned with the moral education of our children. We want to nourish reason and compassion.
i try to share my love with everyone who will respond to it, even my dog deserves my affection!
i also love those who cannot respond, the starving and unfortunate and my love moves me to offer some small assistance.
this is the love that moves me to try and improve life now instead of waiting for another life to come.. i have become aware that truly knowing myself and understanding my fellowman is a journey i may never complete but that is the way i will find peace and happiness.
Thanks, nvr! I think this one sums it all up:
- We are deeply concerned with the moral education of our children. We want to nourish reason and compassion.
hi im new to this forum and am currently trying to exite the watchtower.for the past 12 months or more i have stopped going on the ministry.in august last year i stopped going to the meetings but depression kicked in and other symptoms and i returned to the meetings in april.i stopped going to the meetings again in july and did more research to see if this is a cult.but im having all sorts of symptoms.confusion of whats right and wrong, panic attacks when i go out, one minute i hate the watchtower the next i wonder whether this is the truth and wonder if ive been mislead by satan.i dont know who to trust and where to go from here.and none of my family was ever in the watchtower so i think they know somethings going on but they can,t understand what im going through.ive been in the watchtower since 1999 off and on, i finally got baptized in 2005 after what i thought was carefull examination of the truth.and whats worse is the elder i studied with when i came into the " truth" lives right next door to me with his wife, which plays all sorts of guilt trips on me and paranoia.
Hi there, jace! Welcome. The emotional upheaval that you're having is like withdrawl from a toxic, addictive medication. The Watchtower Society is like addiction and the withdrawl can be difficult for some. We're here for you! Best wishes; stay away from "the drug" of meetings; it dulls the mind and induces a bit of paranoia.
rational thinkers want candidates and the powers that be to address this question publically via the youtube question & answer thingy.
you can go there and vote for "answer" at:.
http://www.communitycounts.us/debates/?q=repubdebate&ans=all&menu=&search=is+america+unofficially+a+theocracy%3f&all=1.
Rational thinkers want candidates and the powers that be to address this question publically via the YouTube question & answer thingy.
You can go there and vote for "Answer" at:
I think this topic deserves a public polititcal discussion, but a lot of fundies (who are voting against even discussing it) don't want it touched.
in my time on the boards and my personal experience, it seems to me that those who really bought into what the org taught, in other words, tried to be a "good little jw", have a harder time when they discover it's all crap as compared to those who perhaps were "fringe" jw's or those who were living a "double life" or had doubts for a while.
he had been having doubts for a while and had been perusing jwd four years before he left.
he also had a more "normal" time as a teenager as he lived a "double life".
It's too subjective a question.
People brought up in a damaging way suffer.
Period.
And you can't measure their pain by looking at them or talking to them, especially in those who don't recognize it themselves.
That's because there are so many forms of denial, and much denial is necessary to survival in many such cases.
BTW, not buying into it can bring as much suffering as buying in, especially when you're still a minor and have been on both sides of that cult wall.
i can't make enough money to pay my bills, and i attend school full-time 17 hours and work part-time at jamba juice 15 hours per week.
this is only giving me $375.
thats just enough to cover rent.
Do you qualify for the PELL or SEOG grants (or whatever they're called nowadays)?
Also, the loan you're paying off now - could that be deferred until graduation? If it's a student loan, you can get a deferment for a certain period (I think without owing interest).
i read this in the providence journal today... found it really interesting.. .
so who moved ockhams razor?.
01:00 am edt on sunday, october 7, 2007. .
Thanks for that very concise article. I'm so tired of the conspiracy theories about 9/11. And I do mean tired. It just wearies me every time they come up.
i can't make enough money to pay my bills, and i attend school full-time 17 hours and work part-time at jamba juice 15 hours per week.
this is only giving me $375.
thats just enough to cover rent.
Don't give up, tsunami. This semester is almost over (I think).
the other side of the wall.
i recently learned that the meaning of the word "paradise" comes from the persian language and means: walled garden.
funny thing is, ive been taught from infancy that the word simply meant "garden", which sounds lovely and desirable.
I was born in the garden. I was taught that going outside its protective wall would bring sorrow and misery. They were wrong and they were right.
changeling - you wrote that so beautifully. I know I would be crushed if my daughter ended up being trapped in there.
i mean, there is so much bullshit talk on this site, and every time there comes up an opportunity to take some action, you all just wus out.
what will it take for you all to get a spine and do something?
write a letter or email to this paper and let them know how you feel about their article.
There are a number of non-anonymously ex-jw books available. Perhaps you could contact the publishing companies and interview some of the authors themselves. Now that would seriously impress your professor, don't you think?